Some Golden samples I’ll be trying soon, and another housepaint fail.

Well, I emailed Golden with blog links, saying I liked to experiment and was there any chance of samples and the answer was …Yes πŸ™‚ and these arrived two days later!


As it happens they’re colours I love and use a lot, pthlalo blue, a rich clear yellow and magenta, I love those, and if i could only have 3 colours of paint they’d be my choice. I love to use gold too ( I’m sure no-one has noticed that!!) but the pyrrole red is a new to me colour. Looks to me like a slightly orange toned scarlet.
For those interested in density the gold has on the side the colours its made from so that could be worked out. Useful info.
I’ve used Golden texture mediums in the past, but not this one, might be fun to add into just one colour and see if it creates a pour with texture – or that might be a huge fail…who knows, that’s the fun for me. Seeing what happens when I ….
The leaflet isn’t clear in my photo but I’m sure their website has a copy, there’s loads of info there.
I’m going to try Liquitex too, but that has to be snail mail, can’t find an email on their site. Those two are my favourite for acrylic paints, used lots of both in my pre pouring days but tend to stick to the cheaper paints for pouring given I use so much. In the four/five months I’ve been doing this I’ve used around 8 litres floetrol, 1 l LPM, a few other mediums and varnishes I’ve tried ( and given up on some – PVA!) and bought perhaps 20 500ml of colours in additions to the substantial lot I had left from my previous painting days. I used to fund my painting from sales, never sold a huge amount but enough to buy more paints and canvas but I’m working at a deficit here. Still, its my main hobby, the reading is supported by ARC reviews and I don’t drink or smoke so for the pleasure I get I reckon its worth it. Of course sample paints like this mean Free Fun so I was so happy to get them.
Interestingly having bought a few “liquid/high flow” paints in small pots recently I find I actually use far less than when i’m using the big heavy body pots, the colours are very dense so maybe it doesn’t work out as expensive as I thought using high flow paints. Perhaps that should be a future experiment, weight of paint to get the same intensity of colour, though I’d need to factor in more floetrol or LPM to get same volume perhaps?
I can’t seem to give up on house paint yet despite my repeated vow not to try any more. I look at the other wonderful pics put up using it and have to have “just one more try” – well, I used floetrol and water in the next two aiming for negative space. I used an icing bag but as usual too much colour so that didn’t work, and the second one was a mess so got swiped and swiped, and last of the pink spread over middle and swipe again. I figure if i don’t like it anyway what’s to lose? I still don’t like it so that’s another repour!Β Β 
The white looks ok when i use it, flows really well and initially looks good but as it dries it seems to go sort of grainy where it interacts with colour and leaves the colour looking wrong.Β 
I’ll see if I can get better photos some time, its almost dry now, then show you what I mean.
I did a quick spider web swirl yesterday for Nathan, he really liked my one with leftover paint from the other day. He picked a rectangular board though and as I tried to swirl to cover more we lost the shape. Note to self: cover sides with white or colour next time to crate round/square centre. I did pull the paint through but we lost those lines too…Learning curve – there’s no such thing as a mistake, as getting it wrong, its all learning experience.

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What I’ve been doing this past week….

Busy week having lots of fun. Did some painting with grandkids. Spent Β some trying to get those elusive large cells, did some negative painting, some experimenting with new additives, and a couple more with house-paint. And tried a few different ideas.

yesterday’s ribbon pour ( well that’s what I call it, there may be a “proper” term but its like a dirty pour tipped slowly. this is over an old canvas, that had some texture, small stones and plaster on the sirface!
attempting large cells – getting there. This was blowing silicon over the surface. It has changed a bit as it dried…

I’m giving up on house-paint, I just can’t make it work for me…others use it with great results but for me whether with just water, pva, floetrol or a mix of all it, whether i use it thick or thin, satin or emulsion, it either cracks or the paints separate so I’m sticking to artists acrylics.

house paint and water, cracked
housepaint and water made thinner, paint separated
housepaint with floetrol, paint still separates

Tried for some negative space works, as usual I added too much colour. But like the results of the first one even though it wasn’t what i was after. Second will get a repaint probably.

playing with negative space
and again negative space was the aim but i used too much colour – that happens alot to me!

Trying for some nice bright cells. I think these were the ones I used coconut oil with, definitely did on the one I collaborated with Nathan, purple one.

cant rememeber what i was aiming for with these two, probably bright colours – i tend to let them mix too much when tilting and end dissatisfied.

Nathan was determined wed do a collaboration piece. He took one side, me the other. He chose colours, we used the same but different mixes and simply poured and tilted. He had much more purple in his mix.
trying a swirl with dirty cup leaving negative space….as usual too much colour.
Beth had the idea to paint a sycamore leaf and place in the white paint.

 

Im pretty happy with these two – trying for biggish cells

Beth was inspired by some cake feathering we have done in the past. Looks good I think, something else to try

I didn’t like the first one below, so swiped it – and swiped a couple more times and ended up with the next pic. Too bland for me, so one to paint over. wished I’d left it as it was πŸ˜‰

two big fails, two possibles, and finally think I’ve found what works(ish) with housepaint. .

well, Saturday saw me using black, white, red, yellow as Nathan did so well earlier in the week. Too much black though, and on the rectangular one I ended up swiping over with acetate. Both are just awful so will be base for incarnation two….

4 x 4 inches

Sunday I tried again, first one had more colour than I wanted but…maybe it’ll grow on me, second was disaster, tilted too much and colours just ran together. Added more colours dotted over and swiped with spatula, better but still not good, so added white to each end and swiped with acetate. Still hated it so scraped off and tried again with what paint was left. still ended up swiping with acetate. I quite like the grey lacing effect but overall its one that I need to think about. Might end up keeping both , might just paint over πŸ˜‰ You know how it goes, sometimes there’s a run of unsuccessful paintings. these had liquitex PM, but I think it was simply user error, paints wrong selection, too heavy handed, too much colour, too thickly applied, too much fiddling. All and any of those.

My experiment with just water and dulux seems to have worked, there’s a little splitting but none of the cracking when i used it with floetrol or LPM. I think though I’m sticking with artist white, use the dulux for priming canvas and wood. and maybe in the house if i need it….

section of painting showing splits, but these look as though they mean to be there, where the cracks don’t.

Updates and new works.

house paint and water only, for the white.

cracked when dry, i thought maybe too thick but still cracked when thinner

Well, the housepaint isn’t a great sucess, tried it thick, tried it thin, tried with floetrol, tried with floetrol plus PVA and all produces cracks or separation of paint when dry 😦 I’m having one last try with no extras, just water and silicon. (see below, first pic) Sod’s law that i like the trial one better than the one i did with white artists acrylic ( second pic). Fiddled too much, a huge issue I always have, knowing when to stop!

I’ve had a few failures besides these…and painted over them πŸ˜‰ Nathan, no 2 grandson who is 12, came to paint again recently. The kids all love doing these, they choose colours and method and pretty much do it themselves now. I love his one here, black, white ( just a little of the housepaint – so far minimal cracking,) yellow and red. he did a flip cup dirty pour with minimal tilting and its gorgeous, reminds me of lava flows and volcanoes. These two were with floetrol, 100% alchohol and dimethicone. I’m using that all the while now instead of the other silicons I’ve tried, works best for me. I use a spray to coat inside cups to help paint pour out too.Β 

Mine wasn’t such a sucess, and paint has split in a few sections 😦 though doesn’t look as bad as cracking, I notice it but no-one else seems to, they think its part of the effects I wanted !! Still working ion trying to keep that “just out of the cup” look. As you can see this is on top of a “fail” from earlier, same colours, done on a piece of primed MDF. I love working on wood but its heavy, couldn’t lift for a flip cup….and of course needs framing. Still, I’ve some big 4 x 8ft sheets doing nothing in shed so my lovely big brother is going to cut some up for me πŸ™‚
Still undecided about this one I did a few weeks back, will varnish and see then. The metallics made from mica plus floetrol worked well, I poured them over after pouring.

Its been a busy week, and when I have been home its been raining so I can’t get into artshed – raining right now too….yesterday it was fine so I spent the time varnishing the ones i’d removed silicon from on Friday. That’s the downside of silicon, removing it. The dimethicon I’ve been using sits on top of the dry painting and its easy to see it, not so easy to be sure you’re got it all….I spray with a 50-50 mix of washing up liquid and water, wipe off, then rub in talc, and wipe off with alcohol. I hate when varnishing and there’s silicon that resists the varnish.

Experimenting with dimethicon instead of treadmill silicon

So yesterday found me trying this out – and the results were great. If I can replicate them so I know it wasn’t one of those flukes, you know – when things go perfect despite what you do – then i’ll be sticking with this.

I’ve been using all sorts of silicon, some successfully some not. I found the spray went everywhere but it the pots, the cosmetic silicon left “holes” and thin spots in canvas sometimes, and the treadmill works OK, but still limited cells. So took the plunge and bought silicone number 4, some dimethicon.
I used the dulux paint for white, added silicone to colours, some blues, pinks and purples, a couple of which are metallic. They’re still pretty wet today, and the sunflower from friday is drying nicely but still not there. Not sure if its weather ot the dulux paint but we’ve (fingers crossed it stays) some sun today so that should help.
I’m trying to get best place for video to minimise glare and give a good shot of me working, showing the actual painting but still haven’t got there. sorry, Its a tight space though and little room for manouevre, but I will keep working at it and thanks for your patience so far.
I tried another flower one like the sunflower but a hydrangea this time. It was going well…til it wasn’t. I overworked it, fiddled too much, used too much colour and it was a mess. Left it as it was raining my my scooter getting wet. came back couple of hours later and i just didn’t like it so i mixed up quickly some more colors, red, yellow and ornage and used the little that was left in pots plus these, poured over at random and swiped the whole thing with acetate and love the result. its got a little gold sparkle dropped on too. today I want to see if I can get gold lacing….well, it might work abd ts fun trying.

this is the messy hydrangea. I just did Not Like it – knew I’d never be happy with it as it was so more paint and a good swipe turned it into the next one.

Housepaint and less floetrol more water

the inspiration. From Morrisons not home grown though 😦

Edit:Β Sadly the paint WAS too thick and this cracked badly on drying. I’ve a couple of others still drying where I used the housepaint but much thinner and so far they look OK. I should have thought when the colours didn’t “run” into the white, creating shapes but kind of sat there. Still, learning curve. I have LOTS of those!!

I wanted to paint a sunflower so took one with me to play with in my shed. Dulux housepaint for white, plus a lemon and a cad yellow, a green i mixed to get shade i wanted – added more yellow and white for stem and a van dyke brown. Colours were R&L, and Shminke -oh and some gold mica, i’m all about the sparkle. I was experimenting with less floetrol and more water but forgot the alchohol so it was two different things, i like to only change one at a time. I used about 20% floetrol to paint then thinned with water. added a couple drops silicon (treadmill) to colours only. tiny dirty pour for the brown centre, then tipped round a dirty pour yellow mix, and blew petals with a straw, then pulled out some of the edges with a bamboo skewer to create shapes. poured green for leaves and did the same, then lightened it and poured stem, swiped bits and pulled bits for shape.

It worked really well, even though I forgot to add alcohol….of course was it a one off or can i do it again. well, I want to try roses, foxgloves, sunflowers before being certain of that! I love flower paintings, and am having fun with this.

so…more flowers tomorrow or more on the experiments list??

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Edit: this took a long while to dry, and yesterday I noticed lots of cracking. thats only happened to me before when i used PVA glue instead of floetrol. It may be that I need more floetrol, it may be that its housepaint instead of my usual artists white or – and I think this is the cause – it may be that the white was too thick, I do have issues with consistency and looking at vid and remembering it was quite thick, did’nt really flow well. I’ve got a couple of others drying that have the housepaint white and a floetrol ratio same as this, but where paint is thinner so when they dry that should tell me if I’m right and its that paint was too thick, or if its actually the lower floetrol. I might try two small ones, just pour the white as a thin and thick mix and see how they dry. I think that would show me a definite cause.

experimenting with housepaint instead of artists white

the painting is awful, but the purpose was to test the housepaint and I’m happy with its performance. Wondering now if I might try a few housepaint colours, test pots maybe? I wouldn’t use them for the more expensive works but these are around Β£20-40 so I think its fine. I think they’re the kind of paintings people want to go with decor more than falling in love with a subject and wanting to keep it years.
this is closer to what I want, the white looks yellowish but dries up bright white. still a bit too much colour for what I was aiming and I only used two ting pots dark blue, like a prussian, and alizarin red.

I saw Dulux matt white was on offer on Amazon – or maybe just a mistake and I got lucky – at Β£10 for five litres. Given the W&N or R&L artists white i usually use is around Β£10 -14 for 500 ml that would make a great saving, especially the way I go through paints….I figured if it didn’t work i’d have paint ready next time we need to decorate.

I wanted to see if it gave the same kind of results. TBH this pic Nathan (grandson no 3) and I did came out pretty horrible but the paint was fine, and this morning looks the same as any with artists white. Rather than keep opening a big tub though and risking it drying, plus getting dirt in I’m planning to pour some into a smaller tub. In fact I might use an old floetrol container and premix to the right consistency ready to paint. That would save time and be handy for those times when i find i’m a tiny bit too short of paint and do a rapid quick mix to finish!
Not happy with the first pic I tried again later last night and this one is much better. I can see the paint that isn’t yet dry has a yellow/cream tint but the dry areas don#t show it and the earlier one is fine so I think that’s just a quirk that won’t show in final pic.
I was originally aiming for negative image in the video but as usual things went wrong. I mixed up van dyke brown, orange, burnt sienna and some gold mica and the white of course but I’d too much colour and Nathan didn’t like the white area so we tilted, added, swiped and finally ran a sheet of acetate over the whole thing. That’s not on the video, did it after filming….NB: Both are pre-used and gessoed canvasses. I hate waste. The brown one with probably get reused again!

I am trying to cut down video size, but somehow seem to be failing so far….I’ll try harder, promise, til then there’s always FF button πŸ˜‰

Today’s plan is sunflowers. I’ve some fab ones in the kitchen, and I wondered if I could paint them but in a kind of abstract way with this pouring/blowing method of paint manipulation. I like a challenge!

 

Edit: this took a long while to dry, and yesterday I noticed lots of cracking. that’s only happened to me before when i used PVA glue instead of floetrol. It may be that I need more floetrol, it may be that its housepaint instead of my usual artists white or – and I think this is the cause – it may be that the white was too thick, I do have issues with consistency and looking at vid and remembering it was quite thick, didn’t really flow well. I’ve got a couple of others drying that have the housepaint white and a floetrol ratio same as this, but where paint is thinner so when they dry that should tell me if I’m right and its that paint was too thick, or if its actually the lower floetrol. I might try two small ones, just pour the white as a thin and thick mix and see how they dry. I think that would show me a definite cause.
Edit 2: Tried thinner paint in case paint was too thick, tried adding PVA as some discussions suggest, but I still get cracking, though a different cracking with the PVA, kind of wider, more like a separation of paint than a crack. I’m going to use what I’ve premixed but think I’ll stick to artists white, and use the dulux as a gesso, or for the house walls!