video of the resin coated card and light MDF trials

I mentioned these in a post a few days back  here

I’ve got the video uploaded now if anyone wants to see them in action and they’ve dried pretty much as they looked when wet – aside from the usual glossy loss, but varnish will sort that. I’ve uploaded dry but pre varnish pics below to show.

As someone has pointed out its in portrait not landscape mode. My bad, sorry. I’ve been working on getting less glare and ensuring I’m out of the way as much as I can and completly missed that.
I’m really pleased with the board and have ordered more, this is A4 size, but I’d like to try larger to see if it warps at all then. there’s a very tiny bend, upwards oddly, in this one, barely noticeable unless it’s laid on a flat surface, and could be a one off, maybe i had too much paint or a little too thick perhaps? I’ll see when I’ve tied more but for now I’m happy. They’ll be easier to store too than canvas, taking up less room. That’s a problem when you’re a prolific artist *blush* and haven’t much space in studio…..

this one is on board, but i didn’t have enough paint and tilted so much i lost all my lovely cells…
this one is on card, I used more paint, tipped less.
section of above painting when dry. See how the colours have split.

I hate giving up so had yet another try with housepaint. Aiming for a negative space and using an icing bag, i worked on the A4 MDF. Got too much colour – no surprise there, and when it dried, usual issue of the colours splitting and separating. One of the paints I’d used was a new sparkly clear one and that really shows up on the original and actually the separation kind of works but its not want I want to happen every time.

Last night i was cleaning some of silicon and varnishing a couple more and just had to have a quick play using one of the Golden colours, and its fabulous. A really rich,  transparent magenta and where it bleeds into the white I love it. another negative space attempt, I’m getting there…It was over one i did last week that I didn’t like. that was a pour that failed, swiped, added more colours swiped again and still didn’t like it so when it was dry I reused it. Clearly these boards are pretty robust.

Lighting isn’t great but you get the idea…
This is the fail I used and painted over for the above image.
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Some Golden samples I’ll be trying soon, and another housepaint fail.

Well, I emailed Golden with blog links, saying I liked to experiment and was there any chance of samples and the answer was …Yes 🙂 and these arrived two days later!


As it happens they’re colours I love and use a lot, pthlalo blue, a rich clear yellow and magenta, I love those, and if i could only have 3 colours of paint they’d be my choice. I love to use gold too ( I’m sure no-one has noticed that!!) but the pyrrole red is a new to me colour. Looks to me like a slightly orange toned scarlet.
For those interested in density the gold has on the side the colours its made from so that could be worked out. Useful info.
I’ve used Golden texture mediums in the past, but not this one, might be fun to add into just one colour and see if it creates a pour with texture – or that might be a huge fail…who knows, that’s the fun for me. Seeing what happens when I ….
The leaflet isn’t clear in my photo but I’m sure their website has a copy, there’s loads of info there.
I’m going to try Liquitex too, but that has to be snail mail, can’t find an email on their site. Those two are my favourite for acrylic paints, used lots of both in my pre pouring days but tend to stick to the cheaper paints for pouring given I use so much. In the four/five months I’ve been doing this I’ve used around 8 litres floetrol, 1 l LPM, a few other mediums and varnishes I’ve tried ( and given up on some – PVA!) and bought perhaps 20 500ml of colours in additions to the substantial lot I had left from my previous painting days. I used to fund my painting from sales, never sold a huge amount but enough to buy more paints and canvas but I’m working at a deficit here. Still, its my main hobby, the reading is supported by ARC reviews and I don’t drink or smoke so for the pleasure I get I reckon its worth it. Of course sample paints like this mean Free Fun so I was so happy to get them.
Interestingly having bought a few “liquid/high flow” paints in small pots recently I find I actually use far less than when i’m using the big heavy body pots, the colours are very dense so maybe it doesn’t work out as expensive as I thought using high flow paints. Perhaps that should be a future experiment, weight of paint to get the same intensity of colour, though I’d need to factor in more floetrol or LPM to get same volume perhaps?
I can’t seem to give up on house paint yet despite my repeated vow not to try any more. I look at the other wonderful pics put up using it and have to have “just one more try” – well, I used floetrol and water in the next two aiming for negative space. I used an icing bag but as usual too much colour so that didn’t work, and the second one was a mess so got swiped and swiped, and last of the pink spread over middle and swipe again. I figure if i don’t like it anyway what’s to lose? I still don’t like it so that’s another repour!  
The white looks ok when i use it, flows really well and initially looks good but as it dries it seems to go sort of grainy where it interacts with colour and leaves the colour looking wrong. 
I’ll see if I can get better photos some time, its almost dry now, then show you what I mean.
I did a quick spider web swirl yesterday for Nathan, he really liked my one with leftover paint from the other day. He picked a rectangular board though and as I tried to swirl to cover more we lost the shape. Note to self: cover sides with white or colour next time to crate round/square centre. I did pull the paint through but we lost those lines too…Learning curve – there’s no such thing as a mistake, as getting it wrong, its all learning experience.

#fail on Tuesdays painting, and trying two new surfaces for painting

I love painting on board but its heavy, but i found these thin mdf sheets and also some resin coated/impregnated card ( not sure which) this is on the board, dimethicon in colours, just 1 drop in each
this one is on the resin card, dimethicon as before plus spray of silicon in cupThe first one had a little dimethicone, second had that plus good squirt of silicon in between layers. I was using mostly fluid paints, 1:1 with floetrol, dash alcohol and then water. the white was heavy body acrylic, but same as above mix. the paint flowed well over surface, I didn’t gesso first, didn’t know if i need to. Will see I guess on drying if paint has been absorbed and if i need to gesso next time 😉 I used more paint on second, less tipping. I’m never great at getting right amounts and had some fab cells in first but as usual lost them on tipping top reach edges. Second i used more paint, then collected run off and poured over a small canvasses, in a swirl. and sprinkled some glitter…..


what was left was a bit pallid so added quick squirt blue and purple fluid acrylics straight out bottle to remaining paint on the silicon paper and dipped two more small canvasses. 3×3 inch i think…


Still a bit pale but maybe I’ll do something else with them. I just hate wasting paint but decided that as i’m losing cells, then adding paint and swiping and then still hating the result and scraping it that’s a waste too so I may as well use more paint anyway and tip less. Breaks my heart seeing paint run off though, especially when that looks better than whats on the canvas!!

The card is quite flimsy so I supported it on a board for painting. I’m really pleased with both and hope they keep fairly similar to the wet look shown here. Its freezing and raining again today. I didn’t think I’d get out yesterday as weather was awful, but there was a break mid afternoon so i did a quick video which will be up later in week, and if i can i’ll photo these today to show changes when drying.
I was feeling a bit sad at all the ones I’ve scraped off this week so did a quick one Tues night – a simple dirty pour using black instead of white. I did like it but…look whats happened!! I used an old canvas that was a PVA mix gone wrong, and there was PVA in the mix i used this time. I’ve had this happen before with PVA, the surface seems to go rubbery and peel. I’ve no idea what caused the lumps though. I’ve been reading a book about the Plague, the Black death and it just reminds me of that 😉
This is wet…

and here it is dry, dimples, lumps and cracks 😦 Shame as i really liked it. Ah well, I think this canvas is one for the bonfire now. 

Advice from Golden, and an update on experiments

I’ve always loved Golden and Liquitex paints and used them in my painting but with pouring acrylics I go through so much paint its just not feasible to use them solely 😦 Yesterday I thought I’d write/email them to see if they’ve any samples I can use for testing and show in the blog and got a lovely reply back saying yes! I forgot to say I was in UK though but hopefully I’ll still get them. They also pointed out this link

http://www.justpaint.org/understanding-the-techniques-of-pouring-acrylics/

which is packed with advice on Golden high flow paints and pouring. I have seen it before ( we pouring artists seem to devour up advice on the net!!) but it bears repeating.
After reading this I’m thinking I might try using alchohol to thin my heavy body acrylics instead of water, maybe before i add floetrol or similar…
Lately I’ve been doing so many experiments and they’ve all gone bad – well, almost all, and that’s why there’s not been much here. I’ve a few waiting to be photo’d and I’ll add them soon but most just got scraped off. Yesterday I just went back to basics, paint, floetrol, water and dimethicon. I forgot the alchohol….and i did get what i hope will dry into a good painting. Sometimes they look great wet but the paint keep changing and they dry very different.
This one was a negative space attempt, that went wrong, got swiped, swiped again, scraped up and tilted, and ended with first pic. Added lots more red and purple and swiped again and got pic two. I’m still uncertain whether to keep or paint over. It might grow in me 😉 I don’t hate it but its not got anything special either. On these first three i used a mix of elmers glue-all and floetrol. I’m still not convinced of glue though and as it costs for elmers in uk, and the pva here I’ve tried don’t work for me i’m avoiding them once I’ve used them up. Others get great works, not me though.

another neg space that went wrong so i tilted it but still don’t like it. I knew if i swiped the colours would just merge unless i added more and i’d run out of time – so a repour on this one.

these two I was trying out a cheap white craft paint, I use loads of white ans as i just can’t seem to make housepaint work for me i thought i’d give this a try. It isn’t one I’ll use again unless i want a grainy effect. I quite like the way it splits and goes grainy on the first but the second, started as neg space and then i tilted and …well, i think i’d got paint too thin too this time so one repour, possibly two 🙂

I’ve a 20 x 20 ice/fire commission so practised on a couple of small ones first. I did a video of these, dif PM for each, floetrol and liquitex i think though I can’t quite remember. I’ll upload the video in a few days if i haven’t already. Had some internet issues…it happens. The two small ones were – well, but’s i like but overall they may be repours, i’m not sure yet. Its funny how often paintings I don’t like, not just pouring ones but my others, are the ones that sell, and those i love languish lonely in the studio or house.

So when i did the big ones, I changed it up. I used a mix of floetrol and LPM for these. The blue is a mica mix and very metallic looking. plus though you can’t see it there’s a fine silver glitter dusting. Love the first one, luckily so does the client, second was a swipe gone wrong, a repour one 😉 I seem to have loads of those lately.

wasn’t going to paint yesterday but had some leftover colour from Tuesday, the blue and pink grainy ones which i’d dropped into one cup and left, so mixed up a quick bit of orange, metallic green, black and purple to go with the two blues, yellow, magenta and tiny bit of white   in the cup, and did a dirty pour on a canvas I’d painted black over one I didn’t like. I’m pleased with how it came out, back to my basics with this, floetrol and paint 50/50, water to thin and some dimethicon. I’ve tried loads of different stuff now, but somehow floetrol or LPM works best for me and as I paint a lot ( and waste a lot) and floetrol is cheaper that’s what i use. If someone wants to pay extra for archival materials i keep the LPM for that, hopefully floetrol will last many years but there’s no data to support it while LPM is designed to do just that, and carries a price tag to match.
And is pouring – with rain not paint! today so don’t think I’ll be able to get out. cold too so fire is lit and maybe its a reading day. I do need to hoover, and TBH the oven needs cleaning, I keep putting it off but maybe its the day to do it as i can’t paint. we’ll see 😉

Couple of new videos, fire inspired experiments with elmers v liquitex pouring medium.

When they’re dry I’ll update and compare the difference. Nathan used elmers in a  2 parts pva 1 part water ratio, then add paint and thin if necessary. He’s seen a video. From my pva experiments i felt it would crack but he was sure it wouldn’t. Its still drying but there are some cracks so for me, with my paints elmers used solely or in this ratio won’t work.

cracks in drying paint bottom right

I’ve added liquitex glazing medium and a dash of floetrol in my experiments. Not sure what the glazing medium will do but it arrived Thursday so seemed a good time to try it. My paints are mostly heavy body, so I thought maybe it would be better to try this instead of so much water to thin. I do want to try maybe a floetrol and no water just glazing medium to see how that works, though I think that would work out expensive at the rate I play with paints…maybe a 50:50 mix might work.

NB Forgot to mention – there’s an error in next video, I said no silicon used but I sprayed inside cup before adding paints for dirty pour, and I added quick spray in yellow and red of the elmers glue cups… sorry. Very little overall though for all those cells 😉 

 

I tried liquitex pouring medium as a final cover, saw another artist recommending it but so far, a week later, the surface is still easy to scratch though it looks very resin like. I pushed my fingernail in and it left a dent, and just running nails over the surface left scratches. I’d worry about damage, and of course LPM isn’t cheap either here in UK.
I tried PVA but that didn’t have the smooth surface though did dry clear, and still had that easy scratch issue. I love the look of resin, just can’t get it right…..and its so expensive to practice with.

this is two coats LPM

working and reworking – AKA messing up and recovery!

I had an idea yesterday so tried it on a couple of 3 x 3 canvasses, liked parts, but where the cad red, cerulean blue and pthlalo green had mixed I had a grim murky kind of pink that was awful. Happens when trying new combo’s so a bit of reworking was in order. I figure if I don’t like a painting as it is there’s nothing to lose by trying to change it. Usually my first try is a swipe with maybe an additional colours(s) added but I wanted to make sure i covered the murkiness so poured colours on neat and tilted. I had yet another kind of silicon to try, a 3 in 1 spray.

You can see bits of the Murk in the next two, couldn’t cover it all.

Must have had more pthlalo green in this one.

I did a 4×4 in one too where i used more yellow and got some fab greens. Still got The Murk in top right corner.

Of course the real test is can I reproduce this effect or is it just a lucky accident!! I’d just finished when Nathan and Chris arrived, and he wanted to video himself painting for his youtube channel – I’ll link it when he has uploaded it. He’d been watching someone paint with 2 parts pva 1 part water, then add paint and thin if necessary. Used silicon too. I’ve just bought some elmers glue-all, finding the two UK pvas I tried simply cracked. I tried a few days ago with an elmers/floetrol mix but this is first pure elmers and the thinning it with water then adding paint is backward to what i usually do so its going to be fun seeing how it dries. I suspect elmers here in uk won’t work out any cheaper than floetrol 😦 I haven’t done a calc yet but its good to have another tool in the arsenal for painting.

Nathan’s latest painting. 10 x 8ins. Kids are going through my canvasses at a rate of knots!!

I “won” some fluid acrylics on ebay….Folk Art so will be playing with them next week t see how they compare to my usual heavy body acrylics. .

 

 

two big fails, two possibles, and finally think I’ve found what works(ish) with housepaint. .

well, Saturday saw me using black, white, red, yellow as Nathan did so well earlier in the week. Too much black though, and on the rectangular one I ended up swiping over with acetate. Both are just awful so will be base for incarnation two….

4 x 4 inches

Sunday I tried again, first one had more colour than I wanted but…maybe it’ll grow on me, second was disaster, tilted too much and colours just ran together. Added more colours dotted over and swiped with spatula, better but still not good, so added white to each end and swiped with acetate. Still hated it so scraped off and tried again with what paint was left. still ended up swiping with acetate. I quite like the grey lacing effect but overall its one that I need to think about. Might end up keeping both , might just paint over 😉 You know how it goes, sometimes there’s a run of unsuccessful paintings. these had liquitex PM, but I think it was simply user error, paints wrong selection, too heavy handed, too much colour, too thickly applied, too much fiddling. All and any of those.

My experiment with just water and dulux seems to have worked, there’s a little splitting but none of the cracking when i used it with floetrol or LPM. I think though I’m sticking with artist white, use the dulux for priming canvas and wood. and maybe in the house if i need it….

section of painting showing splits, but these look as though they mean to be there, where the cracks don’t.