3 dirty pours, leaving paints to settle for an hour first

I’ve been struggling with cells in dirty pours. I see others who have terrific, big, clear cells, and mine are tiny or non existent and fall apart soon as I tilt. Doing a larger painting recently i’d mixed paints the day before and then layered them into cups and left for a couple of hours and its quite tiring for me and i needed to rest. Life in a wheelchair means adapting 😉 when i tipped my cup out I had some great cells and that made me wonder of mixing and layering paints then giving them time to work in cup might help so here I’ve done three paintings where i try just that.
the day after I was chatting online to another artist who had some fabulous cells and she reminded me that for cells you need much more paint than you think, and i’ve been relying on paint charts showing paint for coverage, but that means lots of tilting which is what can upset the cells. You can see that here in a way, i have some great cells out of the cup but once I start to move I lose some.
I tried next day using about 1.5 times more paint than usual and got much better results. Didn’t video that though – always the way isn’t it. I get the fails on camera and not the successes 😉 Still, its all learning and hopefully others can learn from my mistakes. ” I make mistakes so you don’t have to” d’you think that should be my slogan?
Anyway, dry pics are on my art blog, jeanniesartadventures I’m not entirely happy with them and may well repour two of them, the third, the one with the sparkle base, I’m going to varnish and see how that brings out the colours, then decide. I’ve re-poured over varnished works too, a coat or two of gesso and they’re fine.

I’m unsure about this one, might keep, might repour.
a definite repour, hate this one

I was playing with leftover paint, did a dirty pour, swiped it, added colour and swiped again, dragged stick through to create texture, and finally as I still didn’t like it I mixed some white and blue and poured over. Now it looks kind of river like, and I’m thinking maybe some pyramids and other Egyptian type additions so it looks like an old map. Maybe 😉

 

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Two 20 x 20 inch paintings for a commission

Edit: just watched the video, sorry for the fact that yet again I’ve got the camera wrong orientation – I really thought I’d got it right…second apology for my back and shoulder getting in the way about three quarters in. Oops!

 

Did these a couple of days ago, they’re taking time to dry of course, as they’re so big. they’ve changed a bit, I’ve lost a few colours that were large patches and now thin lines 😦 but that happens, not much to do. I make sure canvas is level so the paint doesn’t slide off, try to get consistency right but its the nature of this way of painting that some colours rise and some sink, and so far predicting which will do which is beyond me….and possibly will always be. Fluid art is not for those that need absolute control.
I used around 4-500 ml white and about 70 oz of paint. I knew i needed 28 oz for each canvas, and have found before that its better to mix too much than too little, as stretching the paint to cover canvas losing so much of the interesting shapes, though it does create interesting lines sometimes. I has one full cup left of mixed colours so i did a 12 x 12 swirl painting, and of course, doing the one ad hoc like that, totally unworried about result got me a painting I love. how is that – the ones we worry, fuss, take so much care over sometimes come out really well and sometimes are still a disaster and yet one kind of thrown on the canvas without too much though comes out lovely?

the pink based 20 x 20 inch canvas
the purple based 20 x 20 canvas
This is 12 x 12 inches, and i did a swirl pour and tilted. I really like this and want to try it as a larger one. so far my large swirls haven’t worked, did the first one fine, next three have been scraped off and that’s a lot of wasted paint but….its fun when it does come right.

 

Golden Primaries Trial

Golden gave me some samples, among them hansa yellow, pyrrhole red and pthlalo blue. I decided to use these in a negative space painting – and really try to be strict with myself because I fail miserably often with this, using too much colour. Its on a 10 x 8 inch canvas and I’m using little shot cups to mix, total colour for my dirty pour including some white is about 1/3 of a cup – and worked well!
the video shows the process, I’ve premixed the colours, trying to keep it short…usual mix, paint, floetrol, water, silicon. Usually i use 1:1 paint and floetrol but the golden colours are so intense its more like 1 paint to 3 floetrol and could probably go even less. Golden do say their fluid can be diluted 1 to 15 for pouring…..These aren’t fluid but a kind of soft body paint – as in the paint is soft body, not for painting on soft bodies – each to their own though 😉

 

just red, yellow and blue, but I have greens, browns, violets in the final piece.

I also wanted to try a fun challenge, a painting using grey, silver, gold, pink and either white or black. I chose black but TBH it was a disaster. the silver is several years old and as I discovered, gone pretty lumpy. I thought I’d got lumps out but as final work shows I haven’t….

But as always its a learning experience, I would either chose white next time, or a lighter grey, or perhaps less black and grey, have them as accent colours? I might do this again just to see if i can get it better.
I used the run off from both to pour over some rocks for Norfolk Rocks, fun thing where people hide rocks for kids to find…And then the tray with that run off got used for some dips. Some predictably were awful, greyish brown sludge by the end but two came out pretty well.  I bought a few fridge magnets so might cut the best bits and put into them.

colours used plus white

I forgot I did a couple with some new fluorescent paints, ordered a few but so far only got green and yellow – but new paints won’t wait 😉 so used a couple of others and did one dirty pour flip cup, and one just a pour.

sadly lost that fab out-of-cup look.
dirty flip cup pour
same colours but poured from cup along canvas. I didn’t like the centre so poured quite a bit to get rid of it.

Last couple of days…

The whole pic, too similar colours IMO

The cold season has struck…but in between sneezes I’ve done a couple of pics. First one here I actually did last week, and as its dried its cracked. I don’t actually mind those, they add a bit extra, but I’m still unsure of whether I like the whole painting. Its a bit Too busy, I used lots of colours, and I think maybe something more pale in parts would give more definition. The colours are just too similar IMO. Its 20 x 20 inches, so for now its sitting in shed while i decide whether to keep or repour.
Close up of cracks.

I’ve been redecorating my dining room, very pale apricot/peachy shade, mid orange curtains, and the old red/orangey pamment tiles – its a house that’s nearly 250 years old and I love these. I thought I’d try a pour painting to go in there in browns, but the first one was a mess, again I used colours that were too similar. I’d done a dirty pour, then swiped (twice) and still didn’t like it, so I mixed some dark violet, poured down the middle and swiped. Its better but whether it will stay….who knows. I put some bits of paper and a canvas to catch the pour-off and got a second painting.

straight after pouring. I think I got the paint a little too thick too.
After adding purple down the centre
let the run off fall onto an old canvas, and swiped with purple

Some swipes and some “pull” paintings – or perhaps “push ” might be more accurate…

I’d been pretty fed up of all the fails – downside to experiments is that lots of them Just Don’t Work – and while I expect that, its still frustrating. So I’ve had a few days of back to basics, just paint, floetrol, water and silicon. Done a few dirty pours then Monday I wanted to do a negative one with metallic paints and try to mimic peacock tail colours….sadly the green dominated, I used gold, blue, green, yellow and purple, but though I only had minimal green I think the blue and yellow combined too much and I ended with a green painting. I like it – but its not really what I wanted.
I used a bamboo skewer to pull out some of the edges, and to try to shape some circles in the green and dipped in to add a little more colour. the photo is while its still wet – they’re taking ages to dry lately, outside in my shed.


I had a bit of dark blue and purple left, so I decided to try something on the resin coated paper. I tipped it over a piece of card, dropped in a bit of non diluted gold and cerulean blue, spread round with palette knife and pressed another piece of card over the top, pressing down really firmly. then peeled back card. It reminds me of encaustic painting when I use an iron, where as I lift the iron the wax collects in shapes. I carried on with a couple more bits of card, then decided to try it on two bits of board. I scraped out all the purple and gold I had, squeezed on more of both straight from tube, plus cerulean blue and repeated above process. I did it a few times before I was happy. Not sure what I’ll do with these but it was fun 😉 I couldn’t resits a bit of glitter over them too….

The resin coated card

Still on the metallic theme i tried a swipe yesterday, its on canvas 20 in by 8 in. I poured lines of colour, dark purple divided into two and metallic medium added to one, same with the cerulean blue, a dark blue, magenta, pale pink, and gold, with some oyster pearl added to the pink and magenta. then white at both ends. And…. swipe – I loved the way it was straight away but the pic is about an hour later and somehow the cells lose some of their definition. I think maybe I have too much paint – I’ll try with less and see if that helps.
I’m hoping the metallic shows up more once its dry, and noticed as it was drying that some of the darker colours and the gold were slowly popping through. I like this one even though it wasn’t as crisp as I’d like.
Today the plan is to clean silicon of some dry ones ready for varnishing. and tidy my work space and add fresh paper….no painting, but somehow I think one might just sneak in 😉
I’ve put a recent card one in a frame and its hanging in my kitchen.

 

#fail on Tuesdays painting, and trying two new surfaces for painting

I love painting on board but its heavy, but i found these thin mdf sheets and also some resin coated/impregnated card ( not sure which) this is on the board, dimethicon in colours, just 1 drop in each
this one is on the resin card, dimethicon as before plus spray of silicon in cupThe first one had a little dimethicone, second had that plus good squirt of silicon in between layers. I was using mostly fluid paints, 1:1 with floetrol, dash alcohol and then water. the white was heavy body acrylic, but same as above mix. the paint flowed well over surface, I didn’t gesso first, didn’t know if i need to. Will see I guess on drying if paint has been absorbed and if i need to gesso next time 😉 I used more paint on second, less tipping. I’m never great at getting right amounts and had some fab cells in first but as usual lost them on tipping top reach edges. Second i used more paint, then collected run off and poured over a small canvasses, in a swirl. and sprinkled some glitter…..


what was left was a bit pallid so added quick squirt blue and purple fluid acrylics straight out bottle to remaining paint on the silicon paper and dipped two more small canvasses. 3×3 inch i think…


Still a bit pale but maybe I’ll do something else with them. I just hate wasting paint but decided that as i’m losing cells, then adding paint and swiping and then still hating the result and scraping it that’s a waste too so I may as well use more paint anyway and tip less. Breaks my heart seeing paint run off though, especially when that looks better than whats on the canvas!!

The card is quite flimsy so I supported it on a board for painting. I’m really pleased with both and hope they keep fairly similar to the wet look shown here. Its freezing and raining again today. I didn’t think I’d get out yesterday as weather was awful, but there was a break mid afternoon so i did a quick video which will be up later in week, and if i can i’ll photo these today to show changes when drying.
I was feeling a bit sad at all the ones I’ve scraped off this week so did a quick one Tues night – a simple dirty pour using black instead of white. I did like it but…look whats happened!! I used an old canvas that was a PVA mix gone wrong, and there was PVA in the mix i used this time. I’ve had this happen before with PVA, the surface seems to go rubbery and peel. I’ve no idea what caused the lumps though. I’ve been reading a book about the Plague, the Black death and it just reminds me of that 😉
This is wet…

and here it is dry, dimples, lumps and cracks 😦 Shame as i really liked it. Ah well, I think this canvas is one for the bonfire now. 

Advice from Golden, and an update on experiments

I’ve always loved Golden and Liquitex paints and used them in my painting but with pouring acrylics I go through so much paint its just not feasible to use them solely 😦 Yesterday I thought I’d write/email them to see if they’ve any samples I can use for testing and show in the blog and got a lovely reply back saying yes! I forgot to say I was in UK though but hopefully I’ll still get them. They also pointed out this link

http://www.justpaint.org/understanding-the-techniques-of-pouring-acrylics/

which is packed with advice on Golden high flow paints and pouring. I have seen it before ( we pouring artists seem to devour up advice on the net!!) but it bears repeating.
After reading this I’m thinking I might try using alchohol to thin my heavy body acrylics instead of water, maybe before i add floetrol or similar…
Lately I’ve been doing so many experiments and they’ve all gone bad – well, almost all, and that’s why there’s not been much here. I’ve a few waiting to be photo’d and I’ll add them soon but most just got scraped off. Yesterday I just went back to basics, paint, floetrol, water and dimethicon. I forgot the alchohol….and i did get what i hope will dry into a good painting. Sometimes they look great wet but the paint keep changing and they dry very different.
This one was a negative space attempt, that went wrong, got swiped, swiped again, scraped up and tilted, and ended with first pic. Added lots more red and purple and swiped again and got pic two. I’m still uncertain whether to keep or paint over. It might grow in me 😉 I don’t hate it but its not got anything special either. On these first three i used a mix of elmers glue-all and floetrol. I’m still not convinced of glue though and as it costs for elmers in uk, and the pva here I’ve tried don’t work for me i’m avoiding them once I’ve used them up. Others get great works, not me though.

another neg space that went wrong so i tilted it but still don’t like it. I knew if i swiped the colours would just merge unless i added more and i’d run out of time – so a repour on this one.

these two I was trying out a cheap white craft paint, I use loads of white ans as i just can’t seem to make housepaint work for me i thought i’d give this a try. It isn’t one I’ll use again unless i want a grainy effect. I quite like the way it splits and goes grainy on the first but the second, started as neg space and then i tilted and …well, i think i’d got paint too thin too this time so one repour, possibly two 🙂

I’ve a 20 x 20 ice/fire commission so practised on a couple of small ones first. I did a video of these, dif PM for each, floetrol and liquitex i think though I can’t quite remember. I’ll upload the video in a few days if i haven’t already. Had some internet issues…it happens. The two small ones were – well, but’s i like but overall they may be repours, i’m not sure yet. Its funny how often paintings I don’t like, not just pouring ones but my others, are the ones that sell, and those i love languish lonely in the studio or house.

So when i did the big ones, I changed it up. I used a mix of floetrol and LPM for these. The blue is a mica mix and very metallic looking. plus though you can’t see it there’s a fine silver glitter dusting. Love the first one, luckily so does the client, second was a swipe gone wrong, a repour one 😉 I seem to have loads of those lately.

wasn’t going to paint yesterday but had some leftover colour from Tuesday, the blue and pink grainy ones which i’d dropped into one cup and left, so mixed up a quick bit of orange, metallic green, black and purple to go with the two blues, yellow, magenta and tiny bit of white   in the cup, and did a dirty pour on a canvas I’d painted black over one I didn’t like. I’m pleased with how it came out, back to my basics with this, floetrol and paint 50/50, water to thin and some dimethicon. I’ve tried loads of different stuff now, but somehow floetrol or LPM works best for me and as I paint a lot ( and waste a lot) and floetrol is cheaper that’s what i use. If someone wants to pay extra for archival materials i keep the LPM for that, hopefully floetrol will last many years but there’s no data to support it while LPM is designed to do just that, and carries a price tag to match.
And is pouring – with rain not paint! today so don’t think I’ll be able to get out. cold too so fire is lit and maybe its a reading day. I do need to hoover, and TBH the oven needs cleaning, I keep putting it off but maybe its the day to do it as i can’t paint. we’ll see 😉