Advice from Golden, and an update on experiments

I’ve always loved Golden and Liquitex paints and used them in my painting but with pouring acrylics I go through so much paint its just not feasible to use them solely 😦 Yesterday I thought I’d write/email them to see if they’ve any samples I can use for testing and show in the blog and got a lovely reply back saying yes! I forgot to say I was in UK though but hopefully I’ll still get them. They also pointed out this link

http://www.justpaint.org/understanding-the-techniques-of-pouring-acrylics/

which is packed with advice on Golden high flow paints and pouring. I have seen it before ( we pouring artists seem to devour up advice on the net!!) but it bears repeating.
After reading this I’m thinking I might try using alchohol to thin my heavy body acrylics instead of water, maybe before i add floetrol or similar…
Lately I’ve been doing so many experiments and they’ve all gone bad – well, almost all, and that’s why there’s not been much here. I’ve a few waiting to be photo’d and I’ll add them soon but most just got scraped off. Yesterday I just went back to basics, paint, floetrol, water and dimethicon. I forgot the alchohol….and i did get what i hope will dry into a good painting. Sometimes they look great wet but the paint keep changing and they dry very different.
This one was a negative space attempt, that went wrong, got swiped, swiped again, scraped up and tilted, and ended with first pic. Added lots more red and purple and swiped again and got pic two. I’m still uncertain whether to keep or paint over. It might grow in me πŸ˜‰ I don’t hate it but its not got anything special either. On these first three i used a mix of elmers glue-all and floetrol. I’m still not convinced of glue though and as it costs for elmers in uk, and the pva here I’ve tried don’t work for me i’m avoiding them once I’ve used them up. Others get great works, not me though.

another neg space that went wrong so i tilted it but still don’t like it. I knew if i swiped the colours would just merge unless i added more and i’d run out of time – so a repour on this one.

these two I was trying out a cheap white craft paint, I use loads of white ans as i just can’t seem to make housepaint work for me i thought i’d give this a try. It isn’t one I’ll use again unless i want a grainy effect. I quite like the way it splits and goes grainy on the first but the second, started as neg space and then i tilted and …well, i think i’d got paint too thin too this time so one repour, possibly two πŸ™‚

I’ve a 20 x 20 ice/fire commission so practised on a couple of small ones first. I did a video of these, dif PM for each, floetrol and liquitex i think though I can’t quite remember. I’ll upload the video in a few days if i haven’t already. Had some internet issues…it happens. The two small ones were – well, but’s i like but overall they may be repours, i’m not sure yet. Its funny how often paintings I don’t like, not just pouring ones but my others, are the ones that sell, and those i love languish lonely in the studio or house.

So when i did the big ones, I changed it up. I used a mix of floetrol and LPM for these. The blue is a mica mix and very metallic looking. plus though you can’t see it there’s a fine silver glitter dusting. Love the first one, luckily so does the client, second was a swipe gone wrong, a repour one πŸ˜‰ I seem to have loads of those lately.

wasn’t going to paint yesterday but had some leftover colour from Tuesday, the blue and pink grainy ones which i’d dropped into one cup and left, so mixed up a quick bit of orange, metallic green, black and purple to go with the two blues, yellow, magenta and tiny bit of white Β  in the cup, and did a dirty pour on a canvas I’d painted black over one I didn’t like. I’m pleased with how it came out, back to my basics with this, floetrol and paint 50/50, water to thin and some dimethicon. I’ve tried loads of different stuff now, but somehow floetrol or LPM works best for me and as I paint a lot ( and waste a lot) and floetrol is cheaper that’s what i use. If someone wants to pay extra for archival materials i keep the LPM for that, hopefully floetrol will last many years but there’s no data to support it while LPM is designed to do just that, and carries a price tag to match.
And is pouring – with rain not paint! today so don’t think I’ll be able to get out. cold too so fire is lit and maybe its a reading day. I do need to hoover, and TBH the oven needs cleaning, I keep putting it off but maybe its the day to do it as i can’t paint. we’ll see πŸ˜‰

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negative space video ( incorporating Spider Rescue!!)

Painting with Beth last week, we were trying for negative space. She’s much quieter than Nathan, doesn’t add bits of info as I’m painting but just carries on quietly on her own work. Hers came out better πŸ˜‰ I still seem to get too much colour or too muted colour, I didn’t really like what resulted, and swiped it, and swiped again and got a ….mess. I can’t seem to find a pic of the final result, probably so irritated at myself! Β Its been painted over now πŸ™‚

Beth’s negative space, some great bright colours and shapes.

Latest plays, some bright cells,

I’ve had a few disasters, downside of trying new things, some work, some don’t, so decided to stick with my tried and trusted mix, but see if I can get cells with more than one colour deliberately, I’ve had it happen accidentally, but wondered if I could influence the process.
Did a small one first, this is 4 x 4 inchesΒ 
Then I moved to a larger canvas, 6 x 18 ins I think. I’m pleased with this one but the second didn’t come right, and I swiped too many times, making the colours join and just become too orange, no contrast . One for painting over later πŸ˜‰ There’s a video of this one at the end of this post. Sorry, you get a bit of me upside down at the end, didn’t switch tablet off properly….oops!Β  too much swiping blended the colours and lost any contrast. Here;s the fails, I tried swiping with pink, didn’t like the result but that could just be my colour choices. I swiped with matallic blue on one last week and liked that.

I’m still thinking over this one, whether to keep or repaint. Its not what I was after but I quite like the subtle effects and soft colours. Its another 6 x 18 in canvas

Video for the bright 6 x 18 painting.

Updates and new works.

house paint and water only, for the white.

cracked when dry, i thought maybe too thick but still cracked when thinner

Well, the housepaint isn’t a great sucess, tried it thick, tried it thin, tried with floetrol, tried with floetrol plus PVA and all produces cracks or separation of paint when dry 😦 I’m having one last try with no extras, just water and silicon. (see below, first pic) Sod’s law that i like the trial one better than the one i did with white artists acrylic ( second pic). Fiddled too much, a huge issue I always have, knowing when to stop!

I’ve had a few failures besides these…and painted over them πŸ˜‰ Nathan, no 2 grandson who is 12, came to paint again recently. The kids all love doing these, they choose colours and method and pretty much do it themselves now. I love his one here, black, white ( just a little of the housepaint – so far minimal cracking,) yellow and red. he did a flip cup dirty pour with minimal tilting and its gorgeous, reminds me of lava flows and volcanoes. These two were with floetrol, 100% alchohol and dimethicone. I’m using that all the while now instead of the other silicons I’ve tried, works best for me. I use a spray to coat inside cups to help paint pour out too.Β 

Mine wasn’t such a sucess, and paint has split in a few sections 😦 though doesn’t look as bad as cracking, I notice it but no-one else seems to, they think its part of the effects I wanted !! Still working ion trying to keep that “just out of the cup” look. As you can see this is on top of a “fail” from earlier, same colours, done on a piece of primed MDF. I love working on wood but its heavy, couldn’t lift for a flip cup….and of course needs framing. Still, I’ve some big 4 x 8ft sheets doing nothing in shed so my lovely big brother is going to cut some up for me πŸ™‚
Still undecided about this one I did a few weeks back, will varnish and see then. The metallics made from mica plus floetrol worked well, I poured them over after pouring.

Its been a busy week, and when I have been home its been raining so I can’t get into artshed – raining right now too….yesterday it was fine so I spent the time varnishing the ones i’d removed silicon from on Friday. That’s the downside of silicon, removing it. The dimethicon I’ve been using sits on top of the dry painting and its easy to see it, not so easy to be sure you’re got it all….I spray with a 50-50 mix of washing up liquid and water, wipe off, then rub in talc, and wipe off with alcohol. I hate when varnishing and there’s silicon that resists the varnish.

Trying 99.9% alchol and updates on other works

I’m trying a higher % alcohol as I saw it recommended. TBH I’m not sure what difference alcohol makes but I did get some biggish cells with this mix. I did a simple swipe using black on a 4×4 inch canvas. I also used the same colours in a larger rectangular one but that didn’t have such large cells, however I did feel the acetate sheet settling into the paint rather than swiping over on that one, and had to recover a few spots so that could be the reason. I need to play more before I can definitely say there’s a difference, but given price is similar I’ll probably use this as default just in case…..
Edit: Update on the housepaint experiments. Β They took a long while to dry, and yestrday I noticed lots of cracking on the sunflowers and the blue abstract. That’s only happened to me before when i used PVA glue instead of floetrol. It may be that I need more floetrol, it may be that its housepaint instead of my usual artists white or – and I think this is the cause – it may be that the white was too thick.
I do have issues with consistency and looking at vid and remembering it was quite thick, didn’t really flow well. I’ve got a couple of others drying that have the housepaint white and a floetrol ratio same as this, but where paint is thinner so when they dry that should tell me if I’m right and its that paint was too thick, or if its actually the lower floetrol. I might try two small ones, just pour the white as a thin and thick mix and see how they dry. I think that would show me a definite cause.

experimenting with housepaint instead of artists white

the painting is awful, but the purpose was to test the housepaint and I’m happy with its performance. Wondering now if I might try a few housepaint colours, test pots maybe? I wouldn’t use them for the more expensive works but these are around Β£20-40 so I think its fine. I think they’re the kind of paintings people want to go with decor more than falling in love with a subject and wanting to keep it years.
this is closer to what I want, the white looks yellowish but dries up bright white. still a bit too much colour for what I was aiming and I only used two ting pots dark blue, like a prussian, and alizarin red.

I saw Dulux matt white was on offer on Amazon – or maybe just a mistake and I got lucky – at Β£10 for five litres. Given the W&N or R&L artists white i usually use is around Β£10 -14 for 500 ml that would make a great saving, especially the way I go through paints….I figured if it didn’t work i’d have paint ready next time we need to decorate.

I wanted to see if it gave the same kind of results. TBH this pic Nathan (grandson no 3) and I did came out pretty horrible but the paint was fine, and this morning looks the same as any with artists white. Rather than keep opening a big tub though and risking it drying, plus getting dirt in I’m planning to pour some into a smaller tub. In fact I might use an old floetrol container and premix to the right consistency ready to paint. That would save time and be handy for those times when i find i’m a tiny bit too short of paint and do a rapid quick mix to finish!
Not happy with the first pic I tried again later last night and this one is much better. I can see the paint that isn’t yet dry has a yellow/cream tint but the dry areas don#t show it and the earlier one is fine so I think that’s just a quirk that won’t show in final pic.
I was originally aiming for negative image in the video but as usual things went wrong. I mixed up van dyke brown, orange, burnt sienna and some gold mica and the white of course but I’d too much colour and Nathan didn’t like the white area so we tilted, added, swiped and finally ran a sheet of acetate over the whole thing. That’s not on the video, did it after filming….NB: Both are pre-used and gessoed canvasses. I hate waste. The brown one with probably get reused again!

I am trying to cut down video size, but somehow seem to be failing so far….I’ll try harder, promise, til then there’s always FF button πŸ˜‰

Today’s plan is sunflowers. I’ve some fab ones in the kitchen, and I wondered if I could paint them but in a kind of abstract way with this pouring/blowing method of paint manipulation. I like a challenge!

 

Edit: this took a long while to dry, and yesterday I noticed lots of cracking. that’s only happened to me before when i used PVA glue instead of floetrol. It may be that I need more floetrol, it may be that its housepaint instead of my usual artists white or – and I think this is the cause – it may be that the white was too thick, I do have issues with consistency and looking at vid and remembering it was quite thick, didn’t really flow well. I’ve got a couple of others drying that have the housepaint white and a floetrol ratio same as this, but where paint is thinner so when they dry that should tell me if I’m right and its that paint was too thick, or if its actually the lower floetrol. I might try two small ones, just pour the white as a thin and thick mix and see how they dry. I think that would show me a definite cause.
Edit 2: Tried thinner paint in case paint was too thick, tried adding PVA as some discussions suggest, but I still get cracking, though a different cracking with the PVA, kind of wider, more like a separation of paint than a crack. I’m going to use what I’ve premixed but think I’ll stick to artists white, and use the dulux as a gesso, or for the house walls!

experiments with additives and new paints.

First off in the quest for big cells, and lacking dimethicone ( its on the way!) I tried what I’ve seen others use, hair conditioner. I also tried some argon oil – and some hand cream with the dimethicone in… and the last one is Cyclomethicone, the first oil I tired after spray silicon. It works but for me sometimes there are thin patches in paint, sometimes showing canvas, plus it needs cleaning off before varnish as you can see it on the surface of the paint when dry.

argon oil
hair conditioner
hand cream, you can see lumps of hand cream that wouldn’t dissolve on the painting
Cyclomethicone Liquid – makes cells but I find it leaves “holes” and thin patches in paint
Cyclomethicone Liquid – you can see the uneven surface of the dry painting.

I’ve got a video below of the hair conditioner and argon oils process but I need to work on lighting, you can’t see the actual painting as well as I’d like.

I also bought some new metallic paints and I should be uploading a video of those tomorrow or friday. Sadly the memory on tablet for that ran out just about a minute before the end…more for me to learn to check!

The dry painting is below

Once its varnished the shine comes back and the metallics have a subtle gleam. This is the kind of painting I want resin for but so far I’m still working on getting it right.
Here’s one that had pin holes in coat one, coat two has ripples on surface and has slipped back from edges, don’t know why, I’d checked that and they were covered but…lets see what coat three brings once its dry enough. This resin ( the cheaper marine resin) seems to have a slight yellow tint, didn’t show on ones that were all colour but does on this one with white. I think TBH maybe i need to stick with Pebeo, I’ve had best results with that and the finish is exactly what i want, and just suck up the cost. Keep it for any real favourites.